Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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  • Published: 08 September 2019
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    This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!

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    Credits:
    Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
    Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
    Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
    Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

    Sources:
    https://www.nme.com/news/film/joker-director-says-viewers-will-mad-new-film-strays-completely-comic-book-2525698
    https://www.nme.com/news/film/marc-maron-tells-us-working-joaquin-phoenixs-upcoming-joker-origin-movie-2466904
    http://www.schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm#
    https://www.sciencealert.com/schizophrenia-is-80-genetic-according-to-this-massive-study-on-twins
    https://sci-hub.tw/https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.12858
    https://www.indiewire.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-joker-king-of-comedy-1202055636/
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Comments • 9 391

  • Nico Bones
    Nico Bones  2 minutes back

    MatPat, this is a great theory! But, let's take your theory to the next level.

    It's been established in Batman comics, movies, and video games that the Joker doesn't actually KNOW his true past. In the Dark Knight he tells multiple versions of how he "got these scars." In the comics he talked about how he liked his past to be multiple choice. In the cartoons, he manipulated Harley Quinn by telling her a horrible life story, which was contrary to what he'd previously told Batman.

    What if the movie is a story the Joker is telling to manipulate someone, and we're not sure how much he's lying about, how much he believes, and how much really happened.

    Take it one step further, the woman who appears to be his mother is actually his wife. In multiple Joker backstories he mentions his wife and how it had something to do with her care that he went insane. So, imagine this, as a schizophrenic with delusions he comes to believe his aged wife (whom you commented looked particularly young and healthy) is actually his mother, because it feels better to him to have an aged, sick mother than an aged, sick wife. His attempted affair with the other woman leads to his "mother," who was really his wife to either try to kill him or kill herself.

    Thus tying in with the fact that the Joker's stories often focus around his father killing his mother. Because he was the one who killed either his mother or his wife when he became like his father. It was easier to accept the idea that his father did it and he was the victim than live with what he'd done.

    • Darren Frey
      Darren Frey  12 minutes back

      You know, the more I think about it, even though the Joker was created by Society, I wouldn't be surprised at all if at the end or near the end he still falls in the chemicals. The character doesn't strike me as somebody that would purposely dye their hair green.

      • Froy Oropeza
        Froy Oropeza  28 minutes back

        Then why would the movie be called the joker


        Bruh

        • hellobubble
          hellobubble  40 minutes back

          okay but like, I really kinda liked Suicide Squad Joker. While they did kinda remove the iconic elements of the character, it was a fresh look on a character we have all seen a thousand times. I wasn't looking for him to remain as the new look for every joker for the rest of joker's existence, but I really enjoyed him in that environment and would have loved to see that again.

          • Da Stormcomin
            Da Stormcomin  45 minutes back

            Great video!!!. I hope ur wrong cause that could suck. I already think the movie will be slow and dry.

            • stealistic gaming101
              stealistic gaming101  57 minutes back

              15:00 mapat every time he does a fnaf theory

              • Crystal Jefferson
                Crystal Jefferson  1 hours back

                Literally got an ad for this movie lmao 😂.l

                • Toastiannn
                  Toastiannn  1 hours back

                  Hey thanks for spoiling Fight Club

                  • dragonite 1352
                    dragonite 1352  2 hours back

                    I sall the joker ad in this video

                    • Al
                      Al  2 hours back

                      3:46 he holds the pen with his right hand... but then next shot the pen is in his left hand? I bet the actor is right-handed and they made him write with a left hand to give that funny/creepy handwriting

                      • John Duckworth
                        John Duckworth  2 hours back

                        So basically this entire movie could be one big joke told by the joker sitting with his psychiatrist in Arkham? I'm okay with that.

                        • Unwanted Bookclub
                          Unwanted Bookclub  2 hours back

                          I had a feeling it was something similar to this. Love the idea behind it even though I haven't watched it. Pheonix probably killed that role. #walkthatline

                          • Budgie McLeod
                            Budgie McLeod  2 hours back

                            Is anyone else feeling dumber for having watched this?

                            • Olivia Stoltenberg
                              Olivia Stoltenberg  3 hours back

                              I got a joker trailer before this

                              • Monster Freedom
                                Monster Freedom  3 hours back

                                dont diss shutter island matt i had to write a detailed essay on it last year

                                • nuggeth
                                  nuggeth  3 hours back

                                  6:07 voice crack

                                  • Marianna Calamar
                                    Marianna Calamar  3 hours back

                                    Matpat: batnipples
                                    Me: NAMTIDDIES



                                    ARMYs shall get this

                                    • blessed_withacurse
                                      blessed_withacurse  3 hours back

                                      I've been a fan of your channel and videos for so long... but you ruined it now . You said this is spoiler free but the last line with the review comment is a spoiler in my opinion ... thumbs down buddy thumbs down...

                                    • Jo Jo
                                      Jo Jo  3 hours back

                                      I got a ad for the new joker! XD

                                      • C Eastep
                                        C Eastep  3 hours back

                                        you haven't even seen the fuckin movie yet

                                        • Shadow snake
                                          Shadow snake  3 hours back

                                          Joker has also been known as John doe, but only in telltale batman.

                                          • Sookie Siamese
                                            Sookie Siamese  3 hours back

                                            I got a joker add in this video

                                            • Daniel Nunya Bidnezz
                                              Daniel Nunya Bidnezz  3 hours back

                                              Looks like this is going to be a 90's Catwoman again.

                                              Meh.

                                              • CapitaineMontreal
                                                CapitaineMontreal  3 hours back

                                                I think I must be Schizophrenic... My handwriting is worst than what we see in those trailers..

                                                • JK
                                                  JK  4 hours back

                                                  0:41 I smell like beeefff

                                                  • ColorQueen_ 64
                                                    ColorQueen_ 64  4 hours back

                                                    Omg right when Matpat started taking about the trailer it played 🤔 illuminati?

                                                    • Aidan Elder
                                                      Aidan Elder  4 hours back

                                                      Film Theory: PROOF that the JOKER is a COMMUNIST??!!

                                                      • Kyliegh Vernon
                                                        Kyliegh Vernon  4 hours back

                                                        MatPat knows too much

                                                        • Jerro Z
                                                          Jerro Z  4 hours back

                                                          Well, yeah, the movie hasn't released yet.

                                                          • AsteriodBand 325
                                                            AsteriodBand 325  4 hours back

                                                            What if he has MSP then that would make sense in why he acts so different when hes the joker

                                                            • Spoodimin
                                                              Spoodimin  4 hours back

                                                              Hey could you do some sort of theory on the movie chronicle? Like what the thing that gave them the power is, or why it gave them powers at all, or perhaps why andrew was the strongest and quickest learning characte. It would be absolutely awesome.
                                                              Another theory could be why they are connected, or why andrew went insane, maybe it was his father and the bullies.

                                                              • Comi Pals
                                                                Comi Pals  4 hours back

                                                                You know what’s funny ... in the middle of this episode, it stopped, and a Joker as started playing 😂

                                                                • HeXaDecimal
                                                                  HeXaDecimal  5 hours back

                                                                  If its not Heath Ledger then its not joker

                                                                  • Johnathan F
                                                                    Johnathan F  5 hours back

                                                                    13:49 runescape lol

                                                                    • Mc Tow
                                                                      Mc Tow  5 hours back

                                                                      I clicked on this just to down vote it. no idea what its about but it sounds stupid.

                                                                      • Simonas Rovas
                                                                        Simonas Rovas  5 hours back

                                                                        What if the batman and by that matter the whole batman universe is just a joker's fantasy?

                                                                        • Hi I guess
                                                                          Hi I guess  5 hours back

                                                                          Damn. I really shouldn't have watched this theory. Now I feel like I got the whole film spoiled for me

                                                                          • Jay Kai
                                                                            Jay Kai  5 hours back

                                                                            That laugh at the end scared me so much

                                                                            • Jon Fesi
                                                                              Jon Fesi  5 hours back

                                                                              This made me want to see the movie.. I honestly wasn’t going to even give it a chance until this theory

                                                                              • violet k
                                                                                violet k  5 hours back

                                                                                Lol I just got a joker and for the movie

                                                                                • Robert McNutt
                                                                                  Robert McNutt  5 hours back

                                                                                  I had something close I use to laugh at every thing even my sister hitting me she wasn't that evil tho

                                                                                  • MMX4 Gaming
                                                                                    MMX4 Gaming  5 hours back

                                                                                    I was thinking this could be the jokers father

                                                                                    • JokerMan 365
                                                                                      JokerMan 365  5 hours back

                                                                                      I personally think this is showing a guy slowly turning into an alternate personality (The Joker)

                                                                                      • Gammer 2007
                                                                                        Gammer 2007  5 hours back

                                                                                        I got a ad for the joker movie while watching this

                                                                                        • João Filipe Tavares
                                                                                          João Filipe Tavares  5 hours back

                                                                                          Oh, so schizophrenic like me? 😬😿

                                                                                          • Zack Lunas
                                                                                            Zack Lunas  5 hours back

                                                                                            Maybe this Joker inspires someone else to become the Joker we're familiar with

                                                                                            • Relied Insanity
                                                                                              Relied Insanity  5 hours back

                                                                                              No their mothers live with them

                                                                                              • AestheticGG
                                                                                                AestheticGG  6 hours back

                                                                                                Okay. Matpat could literally work for the FBI as a profiler