Small Planes Over Big Oceans (ETOPS Explained)

  • Published: 09 May 2017
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  • Wendover Productions
    Wendover Productions   3 years back

    So apologies for the slightly shorter and perhaps less refined video than usual! In the last month there's been 5 days when I *haven't* been traveling which means less time to make videos. The good news is that a lot of that travel was to make videos.

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    • Eli Wesley
      Eli Wesley  2 months back

      The a300 was actually the first ETOPS plane with a 75 minute ETOPS rating

      LIL AUZZIE  3 months back

      What you talking about wendover? That video was great

    • Roger Crombie
      Roger Crombie  4 months back

      7:12 Airbus has the A-340 also🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

    • Nathan Swenson
      Nathan Swenson  4 months back

      Wendover Productions I don't think you use enough cliches and hyperbolic language in the narration of this video lol

    • D B
      D B  5 months back

      Its impossible that airlines make any money. A 747 burns 50,000 gallons of fuel a minute. No way the ticket prices can account for that. 400 passengers at $200 per ticket on average is only $80,000.

  • Freckles Aviation
    Freckles Aviation  2 days back

    How did companies like aloha airlines get their 737-200's then

    • Adrian Motley
      Adrian Motley  3 days back

      The funny thing is that Cold Bay isn’t even cold!

      • Jo Bloggs
        Jo Bloggs  2 weeks back

        Engine failure is one thing if you still have one working engine so as to still be able to fly so many hours to the next available airfield, but what about a fire on board!!! and you have only minutes to land?????
        No plane engine is 100% reliable so at some point one of these "super reliable twin engines" will still fail at a crucial point over the ocean and have no where to land!
        I still feel far safer with 3 engines minimum.
        Every time I board a plane with two engines I'm thinking hmmm!!

        • coppurt
          coppurt  2 weeks back

          That Dreamliner example did not age well

          • TheMatrixster
            TheMatrixster  2 weeks back

            "only applied to airplanes with two engines"
            so use one engine. simple.

            • Mason Silvers
              Mason Silvers  3 days back

              Ora 1/2 engines. Or 1.28363682532728632837638374738363847383673674746474646387354736357363645363647464546474747365377263 of a engine. So yeah.

            • Mirza Ahmed
              Mirza Ahmed  2 weeks back

              Two or fewer.

          • Houston Crawford
            Houston Crawford  3 weeks back

            Had to sit thru ETOPS class today lol

            • MrYzeng
              MrYzeng  4 weeks back

              The dc10 got grounded for a little while

              • JoelJames2
                JoelJames2  1 months back

                5:39 That awkward moment when the delay due to a failed engine mid flight is shorter than a normal American Airlines delay.

                • Lofts Sympatico
                  Lofts Sympatico  1 months back

                  Dammit, you are talking like a millenial ;-). Since when did a postal route (Pronounced r-oo-t) become rout (pronounced "rowt") which is a groove made in wood with a rotary tool, for example ( a real router) or the complete vanquishing of an enemy in war. Computer routers (pronounce "rooters" and airplane "routes" pronounced 'roots" should be prounounced as they were for years, when English was more carefully used, and less abused. Why mix up a pattern of traffic (a route, (root) with the word for overwhelming victory in a battle ? Indeed. So please let us go back to our roots, and pronounce the word route the same way, and not resort to warfaire ;-)

                  • Jorge Parra
                    Jorge Parra  1 months back

                    A380 has left the chat

                    • 노유현
                      노유현  2 months back

                      A spider crawled onto my hand while the lights were down.
                      Thank you. This video made me kill it.

                      • K S
                        K S  2 months back

                        ETOPS has now changed to extended diversion time operations (EDTO). It no longer applies to twin engine aircraft as the 747-8 was the first aircraft to be granted 330 mins EDTO due to the cargo fire suppression system. It is about system redundancies and back ups on aircrafts and not just about how many engines anymore. Great video though, keep it coming :)

                        • Aaron Lang
                          Aaron Lang  2 months back

                          The London City to New York flight from BA (BA001, I think) stops in Shannon first. It's a direct flight, but there is a stopover. You clear US customs in Shannon, though, so when you get off in NYC you can walk straight out.

                        • MAVERICKS AVIATION
                          MAVERICKS AVIATION  2 months back

                          The 787 isn’t very small

                          • Dan
                            Dan  2 months back

                            I believe BA's LCY - JFK route is not direct. I seem to remember it changes in Shannon or Cork

                            • EthanPlaysYT
                              EthanPlaysYT  2 months back

                              Dan It stops in Shannon to refuel

                          • emmm
                            emmm  2 months back

                            $5 is kinda steep for something you get include elsewhere. For a forward!!

                            • bk kedairy
                              bk kedairy  2 months back

                              the 787 is a widebody how is it small

                              • Nick Rogers
                                Nick Rogers  2 months back

                                I flew from boston to ireland on a dc 10 with full cargo
                                felt like a gaw dang brick when we landed then a 130 to kuwait ... kill me.... the middle easterners could not!

                                • Jorn van Bladel
                                  Jorn van Bladel  2 months back

                                  Should we not question why the FAA (an american organisation) can determine whether or not flights can happen between Australia and Chili? I mean I understand it partly, but why doesn't it make sense for either of those countries to say fuck it, if your planes are so much safer than the FAA thinks, and we want some piece of that global economy, just do it.

                                  • Ron leitch
                                    Ron leitch  2 months back

                                    This video explains something that’s been puzzling me for a while - I recently saw a video showing a small BA twin engine plane landing at London City Airport, having apparently flown direct from the USA! I was puzzled for two reasons, firstly that a small plane could fly that length of journey and secondly, that it was now apparently permissible for a twin engined plane to cross the Atlantic. This video has answered my queries - thank you!

                                    • Thomas Mortimore
                                      Thomas Mortimore  2 months back

                                      It also helps that they only carry 32 pax on board so much lighter than standard A318

                                  • Saul Adan Garcia Martinez

                                    Buenos Aires, Argentina to Australia routes go over the Antartica

                                    • Stuffies SARI
                                      Stuffies SARI  2 months back

                                      Airbus has 2 4 Engine jets 380 340

                                      • Thomas Mortimore
                                        Thomas Mortimore  2 months back

                                        And only one of them is "in production" which is what he said

                                    • kritarth seth
                                      kritarth seth  2 months back

                                      Great video. The only thing I didn't like was the portraying of regulatory body as villains. They took the decisions for public safety. We all know that public safety cannot be left in the hands of corporations. In the absence of regulators, both plane manufacturers and airlines will ignore safety in favour of profit. Case and point 737 max, where they exploited a loophole and got away with fewer regulatory checks, killing hundreds.

                                      • T Abel
                                        T Abel  2 months back

                                        I wouldn't categorize the 787 as "small"

                                        • Mason Silvers
                                          Mason Silvers  3 days back

                                          I say it's big

                                          And if a plane wore pants, how would it wear them? (Yeah this is a reference to a HAI vid, and Sam (from wendover) owners HAI)

                                        • Wolf O'Donnell
                                          Wolf O'Donnell  2 months back

                                          It's certainly not small, but it is smaller than a 747 or 777.

                                      • Charles Royal
                                        Charles Royal  2 months back

                                        Thank you for this, very informative and clear.

                                        • shantanu jain
                                          shantanu jain  2 months back

                                          what if both engine fails?

                                          • Caliado
                                            Caliado  3 months back

                                            the flight BA 001 from London City to JFK has a stop over at Shannon in Ireland due to them not being able to takeoff with fuel at London City

                                            • Ben
                                              Ben  3 months back

                                              7:08 Airbus makes the a340 which is also a 4 engine jet.

                                              • PersuasiveSpeakers
                                                PersuasiveSpeakers  2 months back

                                                It hasn't been made in a while now. All airlines are phasing the A340 out, there are very few in regular service. They use a lot of fuel for the passenger count.

                                            • iTechnation
                                              iTechnation  3 months back

                                              How did squarespace didnt sponsort you😂

                                              • Jo Ubi
                                                Jo Ubi  3 months back

                                                "low demand like Melbourne-Santiago" - i've flow to Santiago numerous times and the Australia/NZ flights are ALWAYS full dude... they aren't 'low demand' routes by any stretch. Low demand would be bumfuck Alabama and marryurcousin Oklahoma that have to be flown on subsidized routes that cost $2 each and flow in Embraer 145s.....

                                                • finao o
                                                  finao o  2 months back

                                                  @Jo Ubi - I was curious how many flights go direct between Melbourne and Santiago, and I couldn't find any at all. Do you recall what airlines fly that route?

                                                • Jo Ubi
                                                  Jo Ubi  2 months back

                                                  @finao o i flew Dallas-santiago leg 3 times and to Santiago via Miami another couple times you can see the terminals full...

                                                • finao o
                                                  finao o  2 months back

                                                  Did you fly from Melbourne direct to Santiago?

                                              • DaNihsel
                                                DaNihsel  3 months back

                                                The A340 has 4 engines as well.

                                                • DaNihsel
                                                  DaNihsel  2 months back

                                                  @Thomas Mortimore But it can make the long distance trips. Like the Singapore Airlines A340-500 Singapore to Newark which was later replaced by the A350ULR.

                                                • Thomas Mortimore
                                                  Thomas Mortimore  2 months back

                                                  But its not been in production since 2011 which is what he said

                                              • Rick Cords
                                                Rick Cords  3 months back

                                                Great video!

                                                • JP Labs
                                                  JP Labs  3 months back

                                                  omg those 319’s and 318’s are so cute

                                                  • domino diamond
                                                    domino diamond  3 months back

                                                    Forgive me for my ignorance but could I fly a 4 engine jet long haul and just idle 2 of the engines to save fuel.

                                                    • Zapan
                                                      Zapan  3 months back

                                                      Tactical .
                                                      That's a very good question, I wonder too

                                                  • AHAMAD IRFAN
                                                    AHAMAD IRFAN  3 months back

                                                    ETOPS : Engine turns or passengers swim :-)

                                                    • MobilePilot - Simulator
                                                      MobilePilot - Simulator  3 months back

                                                      Twin engine jets cant fly 60 mins or more further away from a diversion airport

                                                      Singapore airlines with an A350ULR flying 18 hours: *allow us to introduce ourselves*

                                                    • Ishan Kumar
                                                      Ishan Kumar  3 months back

                                                      Wait doesn't Airbus also make the A340 which has 4 engines?

                                                      • Ishan Kumar
                                                        Ishan Kumar  3 months back

                                                        @Miguel Cardoso oh. Thanks

                                                      • Miguel Cardoso
                                                        Miguel Cardoso  3 months back

                                                        It stopped being produced in 2011 due to low sales. Companies rather buy the A330 or its sucessor, the 2 engine A350

                                                    • Dumb Comment
                                                      Dumb Comment  3 months back

                                                      Cold Bay has a nice view at least

                                                      • Justjorge
                                                        Justjorge  3 months back

                                                        A340 also has 4 engines

                                                        • Dan Rambaldi
                                                          Dan Rambaldi  3 months back

                                                          But it's not in production anymore.

                                                      • Daniel Moolman
                                                        Daniel Moolman  3 months back

                                                        It's interesting to see how older or poorer airlines still operate these old four engines planes. Take my home country's airline, South African Airways. Almost all of the long haul fleet are A340s, with the exception of a few newer A330s. Since the fares were always cheaper, the thought of using a twin-engined plane for anything but domestic flights seemed impossible to me.

                                                        • TONY LANE
                                                          TONY LANE  3 months back

                                                          Ronald Reagan was NOT the president of the United states in the 60s. What are you even talking about.

                                                          • Knight Rider
                                                            Knight Rider  3 months back

                                                            Well made video and super interesting. I always wondered what was needed to get ETOPS certified.

                                                            • TCG StorM
                                                              TCG StorM  3 months back


                                                              • Ashley Wright
                                                                Ashley Wright  3 months back

                                                                Dear Narrator its Rou-te not Ra-ut, please correct your PRONUNCIATION, before making any misadventure.

                                                                • The Snookman
                                                                  The Snookman  3 months back

                                                                  Very annoying background music!! It's the same sound my sex robot makes on 'low battery.';)

                                                                  • hoopsheavenpa
                                                                    hoopsheavenpa  3 months back

                                                                    Excellent explanation!

                                                                    • kacperkrakowski RBLX
                                                                      kacperkrakowski RBLX  3 months back

                                                                      How is a 787 small? A CRJ200 really is small

                                                                      • ZK-APA
                                                                        ZK-APA  3 months back

                                                                        kacperkrakowski RBLX its small for its segment (wide body airliner)