The Economics That Made Boeing Build the 737 Max

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  • Published: 30 April 2019
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    References:
    [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/08/business/boeing-737-max-.html
    [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_jet_airliners
    [3] https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/boeing-boss-green-lights-all-new-next-generation-nar-353056/
    [4] http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2017%2012%20Month%20Documents/Aircraft%20and%20Related/Small%20Narrow/Average%20Daily%20Airborne%20Hours%20of%20Total%20Small%20Narrowbody%20Fleet.htm; http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2017%2012%20Month%20Documents/Aircraft%20and%20Related/Widebody/Average%20Daily%20Airborne%20Hours%20of%20Total%20Widebody%20Fleet.htm
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    [6] https://www.boeing.com/company/about-bca/washington/737-rate-increase-07-28-17.page
    [7] https://sites.google.com/site/unitedfleetsite/mainline-fleet-tracking
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    [9] https://www.airbus.com/newsroom/press-releases/en/2010/12/airbus-offers-new-fuel-saving-engine-options-for-a320-family.html
    [10] https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/21/business/global/american-places-record-order-with-2-jet-makers.html
    [11] http://news.aa.com/news/news-details/2011/AMR-Corporation-Announces-Largest-Aircraft-Order-In-History-With-Boeing-And-Airbus-07202011/default.aspx
    [12] https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/21/business/global/american-places-record-order-with-2-jet-makers.html
    [13] https://www.panamacademy.com/boeing-737-ng-type-rating-and-training-courses
    [14] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/08/business/boeing-737-max-.html
    [15] http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737max/#/technical-specs; http://www.b737.org.uk/737max.htm
    [16] https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019-03-19-Air-Canada-Updates-Schedule-Following-the-Grounding-of-the-Boeing-737-MAX-Aircraft
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    [18] https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/airplane/turbfan.html
    [19] https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/08/business/boeing-737-max-.html

Comments • 3 741

  • Wendover Productions
    Wendover Productions   6 months back

    Hey all, 
    I hope you find this video interesting. It is meant to provide an overview of what led to Boeing creating the 737 MAX rather than giving a comprehensive overview of the factors leading to the two crashes and the issues with MCAS so the explanation on that is quick. If you want to learn more about that, I would suggest starting with this article: https://theaircurrent.com/aviation-safety/vestigal-design-issue-clouds-737-max-crash-investigations/

    Also, for the first time ever, we're taking topic suggestions for future Wendover videos. If we end up using your topic, we'll send you a free Wendover t-shirt in gratitude. Submit your ideas here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdMAoo9CfGxr5OvZdz3qCCEkeQSVJpak3YYTHQFLRwXOyTOXA/viewform?usp=sf_link

    • William & Fannie
      William & Fannie  6 days back

      I love Boeing.The question we must ask..why didn't any Us carriers ( B737-max) crashed.
      Is it the mandated rest periods for the pilots?
      Is it the training ?
      Or is it Lion air and Ethiopian airlines flight Safety record.
      Is it cost cutting ?
      What is safety..An uncompromising approach to standard operating procedures.
      Another question to add to the list..Is it climate change?
      Is the weather affecting aircraft performance?

      Hmmmmmmm💯🙏💯🤔

    • prajwal vaidya
      prajwal vaidya  2 weeks back

      nice review .......Boeing should .....see this

    • Guinness
      Guinness  4 weeks back

      Wendover Productions you should do a follow up to this on the economic cost of the 737 max grounding

    • Wonder Zwane
      Wonder Zwane  1 months back

      No wonder it's still grounded!

  • David Perry
    David Perry  6 hours back

    May
    Crash
    Any
    Second

    • Fernando Dember Laguna
      Fernando Dember Laguna  17 hours back

      TLDR, Money, rich investors wanted more money and just used old designs.

      • Why Soitanly
        Why Soitanly  1 days back

        Boeing's 737 MAX is fuel-efficient because after they dive into the ground they no longer need any fuel.

        • Will Mac
          Will Mac  2 days back

          Some airline ceo forced them to take shortcuts..

          • kingbane2
            kingbane2  2 days back

            you can't so nobody would have guessed. there are records that dozens of engineers within boeing warned them that this would happen and they were silenced.

            • tobicitas
              tobicitas  3 days back

              in short: B737-MAX is BULLSHIT

              • Carmelo Caruana
                Carmelo Caruana  3 days back

                Thank you Wendover for such an explanation.I'm a frequent flier and will avoid the MAX for sure.The people who made the mistake should suffer because they put the money before the human life. WELL DONE WENDOVER

                • Dung Tran
                  Dung Tran  3 days back

                  Sooo literally like the auto captain (aka antagonist) in the movie wall-e in a plane system

                  • Onkar Pradhan
                    Onkar Pradhan  4 days back

                    More than hasty decision, it's a greed driven, money minded decision. Karma has caught up to them.

                    • nick f
                      nick f  4 days back

                      Karma, boeing should have left Bombardier's C series alone. It was no threat to them, now it is.

                      • Jeremy Christian
                        Jeremy Christian  5 days back

                        The way he roasts the Max at 1:05. You can't not go whoaaa damnn at it.

                        • Thulsa Doom
                          Thulsa Doom  5 days back

                          good stuff but he skims over it way too fast

                          • Real
                            Real  5 days back

                            Modern Planes:
                            7 AM Departure
                            9 AM Arrival


                            737 MAX:
                            7 AM Departure
                            7:20 AM Arrival

                          • Auto Racing Playlists
                            Auto Racing Playlists  6 days back

                            Meanwhile in the USA Government :
                            Boeing can't die, what shall we do?
                            USAF : We got you Fam
                            [buys F-15X]
                            Government : ............

                            • Hubjeep
                              Hubjeep  1 weeks back

                              This story sounds similar to US automakers from the 70's on!

                              • Team Void Gaming
                                Team Void Gaming  1 weeks back

                                MCAS:
                                May Crash Any Second

                                • Desert Road
                                  Desert Road  2 weeks back

                                  To me the MAX still looks like a standard Boeing 737, so is it basically the same airframe as the earlier variants ? If so can't Boeing just retro fit all these MAX aircraft with flight systems from the earlier safer 737's so they can get them back in the air to help their customers start earning again ?. Call that new variant The Boeing 737 Max Retro.

                                  • Shato Nyruami
                                    Shato Nyruami  2 weeks back

                                    We have to get Boeing out of business. I do my part by telling every travel agency that I refuse to fly in any Boeing airplane and that they have to arrange my travels so that no such plane is involved. These requests ARE reported to airlines, if enough travelers do the same, airlines will react and stop ordering these pieces of crap.

                                    Airbus has a perfect stall protection system in place. Whenever the speed of the plane drops, even if momentarily, below the safe flying speed for the actual maneuver, the airbus rings an alarm and sets TOGA thrust automatically, but it doesn´t interfere with the pilots flying by bringing it´s nose down. This system, opposed to Boeing´s chosen path, saved lives, Boeing rather chose to kill passengers.

                                    The worst part is, even though the problem is still persisting, the MAX is still grounded worldwide, Boeing builds more than 50 of this faulty pieces of crap per month and parks them on giant parking lots to be able to kill even more passengers as soon as their lobbyists put enough pressure on politicians to lift the ban. They won´t fix the problem, because they can´t. If fixing the problem would just be a matter of switching out the sensor, the problem would have been fixed before the planes got grounded.

                                    • parteibonza
                                      parteibonza  2 weeks back

                                      Revamped over, over, and over again. 50 year old design. Oops I was talking about the Porsche 911...

                                      • John C Gibson
                                        John C Gibson  2 weeks back

                                        Lay off all brown employees. The more brown people come to this country, the more money you have to make, and investors like that you think you need to make more money. That is why the more brown people you hire, the higher your stock goes on wall street. But the result is lower quality of products, lower quality of life, lower income for every one, lower everything. The only thing that goes higher is billionaire investors's bank account.

                                        • Gavin Finley
                                          Gavin Finley  2 weeks back

                                          We live in unstable times, ruled over by unstable people. Naval architects design an unstable a cargo ship with an itsy-bitsy canoe shaped bottom hull that is obviously designed poorly. When the heavy cargo is stacked up high the vessel becomes top-heavy. It capsizes, and in relatively calm waters. Then a legally hogtied unstable media will not report the problem as such.

                                          Unstable businessmen at Boeing, keen to beat Airbus, go against the advice of the engineers and redesign the Boeing 737 as the 737 Max. The Boeing landing gear is shorter than the Airbus. So they instruct the designers to put the bigger engines up higher on the wing. The plane that was once stable in flight now has unstable nose-up flight characteristics during the critical takeoff phase.

                                          But no matter. They try to correct this misbehavior by crafting the computer software to slowly crank the tail surface down to put the nose down during takeoff. This takes away pitch control from the pilots who are on occasion pulling back on the yoke trying to get the nose of the plane up. They are struggling to prevent a nose-down crash into the ground.

                                          This it has ended up crashing two airliners, killing all on board. And now what do the unstable bean-counters at Boeing want to do? Back to the drawing board? Oh no. That would be too costly. They want to tweak the crazy self-conflicted system. They want to calm and mollify the ghost in the machine. They want to get the planes back in the air making money again.

                                          Overseeing all this are unstable people,
                                          People who think that bad things, with a bit of tweaking can be made into things that are just fine.

                                          When they are obviously not.

                                          • jomax clux
                                            jomax clux  2 weeks back

                                            THANK YOU! This is the best explanation of the issues Boeing is facing with the re-certification of the plane.

                                            • Gabe Fernandez
                                              Gabe Fernandez  2 weeks back

                                              If you think about it American Airlines was responsible of the 737MAX8

                                              • Venkat Babu
                                                Venkat Babu  2 weeks back

                                                Manual mode should be separated from auto mode and single panel control systems.

                                                • Jasmine Johnston
                                                  Jasmine Johnston  2 weeks back

                                                  I call this plane the Max Crasher because of those two fatal crashes

                                                  • Greg1 McIntosh
                                                    Greg1 McIntosh  3 weeks back

                                                    Well done!!!!

                                                    • Charles Shi
                                                      Charles Shi  3 weeks back

                                                      Request the FAA to send the case to LEA for criminal investigation
                                                      https://faaoversightextraordinaryairsafetythreat.wordpress.com/2019/08/13/request-the-faa-send-the-case-to-lea-for-criminal-investigation

                                                      • NKPlayz
                                                        NKPlayz  3 weeks back

                                                        sir, im not sure what you meant when you said aircraft start up with one button...

                                                        • Michael deAntonio
                                                          Michael deAntonio  3 weeks back

                                                          So it's Boeing's fault that the cheap airlines didn't property maintain their MCAS?

                                                          • jadawin10
                                                            jadawin10  3 weeks back

                                                            @Michael deAntonio
                                                            Knowing that the 737 MAX was a flawed plane since its conception, it is not very important to know who maintain it ...

                                                          • Michael deAntonio
                                                            Michael deAntonio  3 weeks back

                                                            @jadawin10 sorry to break it to you, but it's not Boeing's job to maintain planes they've sold. That's like saying it's Honda's job to change the oil on your Civic.

                                                          • jadawin10
                                                            jadawin10  3 weeks back

                                                            Yes...

                                                        • Ary S
                                                          Ary S  3 weeks back

                                                          If I am an airline owner. I will never buy new plane . I am gonna wait for 2 years at least to see if there is any incident or accident. A320 b737ng and b777 are the safest birds out there now

                                                          • albert rosa
                                                            albert rosa  3 weeks back

                                                            I really don't know why people are hating on the Max. I personally would fly this plane over and over. I understand unfortunately there crashes and I feel sorry for the loss of all those who had this experience. This plane is safe and I would go on this plane over the ones going on the air right now. If everyone disagrees with me I am ok. The plane has been recertified and I feel safe

                                                            • Cagefree
                                                              Cagefree  3 weeks back

                                                              I used to be a hardcore if it isn’t boeing I’m not going fan. Now? I rather fly on a Tupolev or Sukhoi... Hell, I’ll rather fly on a Comac before a Max. This is what happens when idiot MBAs make the decision to save money and slap modern engines on an airplane designed in the 1960’s. FFS, I’m no engineer but when they went from the old low bypass engines to the newer high bypass engines and had to flatten out the bottom to make them fit, you probably have hit the limits of the airframe. What’s worse is they had a great airplane, the 757, which could fit these new engines. Not only that, if you can fly a 757 you can also fly a 767. But no, let’s keep what’s basically a pterodactyl in the air.

                                                              • serenader
                                                                serenader  3 weeks back

                                                                FTFY it was a GREEDY decision by GREEDY Evil minds.

                                                                • Sam Lutfi
                                                                  Sam Lutfi  3 weeks back

                                                                  Boeing dropped the ball here. Their only new airplane in 25 years is the 787. Everything else has just been repurposed. Engines have become so large it was clear that Boeing needed a new place to replace the 737. The max in turn reflects all the problems that come with this mistake. MCAS is designed specifically because the engines are to big for the plane, had the plane been redesigned it would never have had this issue nor even needed an MCAS system

                                                                  • John Oke
                                                                    John Oke  3 weeks back

                                                                    Air Canada also used the 737 Max 8 between Toronto (YYZ) and Shannon, Ireland (SNN)

                                                                    • Albert Kite
                                                                      Albert Kite  3 weeks back

                                                                      are u a femanazi

                                                                      • Doin'it F1rstPerson
                                                                        Doin'it F1rstPerson  3 weeks back

                                                                        Boeing:The Boeing 737 Max is Cheap and Fuel Efficient!


                                                                        Airlines: oh cool! how much does it cost?


                                                                        Boeing: oh, just 100 eternal souls

                                                                        • Mr. S308
                                                                          Mr. S308  4 weeks back

                                                                          fucking killers

                                                                          • Orange World
                                                                            Orange World  4 weeks back

                                                                            Yes Boeing made a faulty AoA sensor, however the first accident was lion airs fault.

                                                                            Explanation time, The day before the first accident they had a faulty AoA sensor and an MCAS malfunction, however there was a third person in the cockpit that day (check airman) this other person knew how to and did correct the MCAS malfunction. This should’ve been a red flag to send this plane off to lion air maintenance, this should have have been the red flag to take that plane out of service until lion air maintenance fixed the AOA sensor. However Lion air maintenance did not fix this, and that plane went down the next day because of an AOA failure that sent MCAS to believe they were in a higher pitch.

                                                                            • JTMarlin8
                                                                              JTMarlin8  4 weeks back

                                                                              The 737MAX is an excellent airplane that you whiny little shitheads would be LUCKY to die in. I mean fly in.

                                                                              • Alex T
                                                                                Alex T  4 weeks back

                                                                                Flights per day? That means nothing.

                                                                                • Tony Lam
                                                                                  Tony Lam  4 weeks back

                                                                                  Airbus better tread lightly, for they have their share of crashes and the US can force an airworthiness review on them. Why did an Airbus insist on landing in 88, and why did a Qantas plane got over 100 passengers hurt, and the training, flt 447 , the crew did not seems to understand what a stall is and pancaked into the ocean. For anyone who is concern about the only 2 major manufacturers in the world , I suggest they try some of the even more primitive new Russian /Chinese planes coming on stream.

                                                                                  • sam nyc
                                                                                    sam nyc  4 weeks back

                                                                                    Airbus are "fly by wire"
                                                                                    Boeing are "cable and pulley"

                                                                                    • TheUnlimited001
                                                                                      TheUnlimited001  3 weeks back

                                                                                      This comes down to what era the models were released in. The newer Boeing’s like the 777 and 787 are fly by wire while the older planes like the 737, 747, and 767 are not. Airbus is a much newer company with newer products. With the exception of the A300 and A310 which aren’t made anymore, all airbus planes are fly by wire.

                                                                                  • Sudipta Shome
                                                                                    Sudipta Shome  4 weeks back

                                                                                    Yeah. I agree it’s Criminal Negligence.
                                                                                    They should be prosecuted, with exemplary punishment

                                                                                    • Andrew
                                                                                      Andrew  4 weeks back

                                                                                      Great episode. If only all media and journalism was this detailed and articulate.

                                                                                      • Kevin zhang
                                                                                        Kevin zhang  4 weeks back

                                                                                        More like "The greed that made Boeing kill 300 people."

                                                                                        • NERF club
                                                                                          NERF club  4 weeks back

                                                                                          Just to let everyone know the 737 max dose not use a wire system